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  • January 25, 2012 11:28 AM
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    Aesthetics aside, can anyone tell me if there are any advantages provided by the teak trim pieces surrounding the cockpit well of a non-teak-deck W32? In its current state, mine is incredibly ugly and rather uncomfortable. I trying to decide whether to refinish and reseat it, or simply remove it and fill the holes.

    Thanks.

    Jack Webb
  • January 25, 2012 12:41 PM
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    Reply # 807135 on 807082
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    I Hate it as well, I am also thinking (pretty sure) of removing it. And yes I am letting the varnish go because I plan on removeing them. I have the molded in foot well i.e. the bottom lifts up not the whole tub.

    so  before I cut the inside (in the foot well) flush with the side deck, these boards provided two functions 
    1.) bruse the #$%^ out of your chines. (every trip out)
    2.) making sure there is always a little bit of water under your bum
    3.) opps the third, they also add to the varnish schedule UGH!

    I am still thinking of a good way to install proper seating in their place. i.e. are a bit closer together across the footwell so that you can place your foot on the leading edge of the down wind seat a be comfortable +/-

    I am thinking folding, glass and ss +/-



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  • January 25, 2012 12:54 PM
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    Reply # 807151 on 807082
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    Jack, it depends on the hull number. The first 120 or so boats had a cockpit that dropped into the deck and was fastened down from the top flange...ie it was not part of the deck mold. The teak trim on these boats hides the ugly transition flange and screws.
  • January 25, 2012 5:00 PM
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    Reply # 807330 on 807082
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    Thanks, guys. My hull is #438, so I should be safe with regard to the drop-in cockpit. I had never heard that before. I suppose the teak was simply retained out of tradition. I can see an advantage with regard to footing, but the difference is not enough to offset the bruised bum (or "chines", as Norm so eloquently put it).

    I think I see an untrimmed cockpit in my future. At the very least, I'll remove it and see how it looks. I'd have to remove it to properly re-seat it anyway.

    Thanks for the feedback.

    Jack
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  • January 25, 2012 11:03 PM
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    Hi Jack,
         We have hull number 425 "Kabuki", when we bought Kabuki the teak had been removed from around the cockpit. 18 months ago Paul put the teak back around the cockpit. He also built a seat in to it, when I figure out how to upload a photo I will put it on. We have found that the teak stops water ingress into the cockpit and channels the water across the bridge deck. The seat that Paul installed helps to keep your "bum" dry.

    wish me luck on the photo's

    Cheers Wendy
  • January 26, 2012 3:36 AM
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    Interesting thought, Wendy. I wondered if it might actually help reduce the ingress of water to the cockpit. For that reason, I had thought about making it wider to increase the comfort level. But, I had not considered widening it just for seats (if I correctly envision what you describe).

    Posting images can be straightforward or very frustrating, depending on where the original resides. It also varies by computer OS and browser. If you have trouble posting it, email it to me and I'll post it for you.

    Thanks for your input.

    Jack Webb
  • January 26, 2012 7:09 PM
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    Hi again,  as you will see from the photo's (i hope you can view them) the seat I spoke of is across the rear of the cockpit, it provides a dry bum area when helming ( no water washing up) we also store our life raft under it when we are on a passage. I find the teak edging on the cockpit well gives my butt a degree of purchase, having short legs I find I can slip off the deck. 
    Some people would be horrified about the reduction in size of the cockpit with this arrangement but we sail as a couple so we do not need the room. I have included a link to my Picasa album.


    Cheers Wendy
     

     




    Here you go Wendy - after you have the images on Picassa you can right click on the image then choose copy - move to your message and then right click to paste into your message -- then drag the image corners to resize the image to fit.   
    Looks good ..
    Jay
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  • January 27, 2012 3:21 PM
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    Thank you, Wendy. I like the way the seat locks into the teak with just enough overlap of the well to provide support. I wouldn't worry about people's reaction to reducing the size of the cockpit. If it works well for you, that's all that matters. And it does make a safe place to store the inflatable during a crossing.

    While it would appear to give you a dryer seat, are you actually able to steer from that position? It would seem that it would limit your ability to use the tiller. When you described the seat initially, I was envisioning something more centered as in the following quick sketch...




    Thanks for sharing.

    Jack
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  • January 27, 2012 11:24 PM
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    Hi Jack,
              We have mainly used it with our self-steering gear on a passage, there is not very large tiller movements involved. If you are doing lots of tacking it is not a good seat, but then we would probably store the seat below if we were racing or such like.

    Cheers Wendy 
  • January 28, 2012 6:50 PM
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    Reply # 809761 on 807082
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    I have Amable' hull # 91 with no removeable bottom in the foot well. Today I took the teak around the cockpit off because I have a leak between the tub and the deck. Like others have said that 51/5 inch piece of teak is very uncomfortable to sit on.  A Beta Marine motor was put into this boat in 2006 by Bud, through the companion way.  Has anybody glassed in the tub (foot well) and put in some sort of Hatch in the botton of the footwell? 

    Thanks

    Duke
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