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  • July 11, 2012 9:19 AM
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    This weekend I will be starting on removing my bowsprit so I can either repair it or replace it depending on what I find. Also the Samson post might need to be replaced. What does everyone do to “replace” the forestay while it is removed in order to stabilize the mast? I was going to use the halyard cleated off on the mast then to a forward cleat to help keep the mast stable. Or am I overly concerned? The boat is in the water so there will be some movement. I expect to have the bowsprit off for a few weeks.
  • July 11, 2012 10:28 AM
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    Before buying my boat, the previous owner did exactly what you describe.  It sat up like that for over 6 months and through winter until I stepped it for transporting.  I think you're safe.  I would use both the jib and staysail halyards, one on each cleat.

    T.
  • July 11, 2012 4:49 PM
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    Your plan to secure the mast should work fine - basicly what I did ... forward lowers brace an unloaded mast quite well.. IMHO.

    Jay
  • July 11, 2012 8:23 PM
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    Thanks guys for the responses. I'll take some pictures and post them here as the work goes on.
  • July 12, 2012 7:50 AM
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    I'm currently in the middle of a bowsprit replacement.  I just lashed my forestay/staysail stay to the tang at the tip of the bow using some spare 1/2" line.
  • July 12, 2012 1:22 PM
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    Thats a great idea also! Do you have any pictures you can share with me?  Since I will be doing it by myself I will remove the platform and pulpit before I remove the bowsprit itself.

    (Mike are you in the LA area now?)

    I am thinking of adding another anchor roller while I have it apart. Bud suggested I it so I  can carry two anchors up there. Also he suggested I "split" the chain locker. So that is on my list also. I am going to see if I can get the chain to go lower in the hull, nearer the shower pan if not right under it. I am just not sure the chain would "run" down that far without help. Any thought on this anyone?

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  • July 12, 2012 3:59 PM
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    If your mast is on a tabernacle, it is easy to lower it, remove it from the tabernacle, and set it aside, which solves what to do with all your forward stays...

    We separated the anchor locker, and we have two anchor rollers, but have learned to use only one anchor--a 60# CQR (=also easier to store just one big anchor down below while on passage); we carry a 25# danforth on the stern. After pulling up the anchor, one of us pulls the chain into the old shower pan (=we carved out a large area of the pan top so one can reach down and pull the chain back) area to get the weight away from the bow area (=one anchor means less weight, too). We use the "other" anchor locker to store plastic waste while on passage...
  • July 13, 2012 10:38 AM
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    John, the mast is not a tabernacle. So I will need to stabilize it. But thanks for the thought on that.

    I like the idea of using the “other” anchor locker for plastic storage. Great Idea!
  • July 13, 2012 6:40 PM
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    We recently had our stays both off to polish the bowsprit and replace the knights heads with SS ones.  The mast stayed up just just fine with the lowers.  Although we did tie off the halyard to the bow before leaving. We've both been up the mast several times with the fore-stays off.  

    When we were cruising we had just one 45# CQR on the bow.  Then our friends on their HC 38 almost went on the rocks. They entered the anchorage under sail and dropped the primary anchor, a Rocna and it it did not set.  Then started the motor and put it in gear, but nothing happened. They managed to get the secondary anchor, a Bruce to set before hitting the rocks. It was found that grass had wrapped around the hoop of the Rocna and a large line had wrapped around the prop. The boat would have been severely damaged or lost without the secondary anchor.  We immediately put our Bruce on and now cruise with two anchors, except when sailing in home waters.

    Our CQR has 330' of 5/8" high test that goes through the anchor platform in 4" ABS and is pulled back to the mast.  The Bruce is on 250' 3/4" double braid which rides in the anchor locker. 

    Jim
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  • July 14, 2012 6:17 AM
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    I agree Jim. Not to hijack the bowsprit replacement thread but unless you are a weekend fair weather sailor you cannot have too much ground tackle.  My primary anchor is a 45# CQR on 250' of 3/8" HT chain. My 'lunch hook' is a 35# CQR on 200' of 3/4" 3 strand. Finally I have a 'Oh $hit' 35# Bruce on 150' of 3/4" 3 strand in the Lazarette locker. At one point I also had a 25# Danforth but lost it when trying to kedge off one time.

    Not sure about using double braid for an anchor rode. I think I prefer the 'stretchability' of 3 strand Nylon.

    Now back to your regularly scheduled program...

    James: No I am not in the LA area. I am (still) on the Rio Dulce in Guatemala.  I'd love to post you some pics of my own bowsprit replacement for you but I've never figured out how to do it here.

    I'm almost at the 'put it all back together' stage anyway.  No fear... It's a pretty straightforward project that should be easy if you have any common sense at all.   The biggest problem being getting sucked into 'while I have this apart I might as well do that' and letting the project snowball on you.

    That said, you might consider getting some help during the actual removal.  It's not necessarily that heavy, just ungainly when you are in the water (as I am).  I removed the pulpit then removed the whole kit & kaboodle using the main halyard as a 'crane'... One person lifting while another maneuvered the bowsprit onto the dock.  Much easier then to remove the platform, etc. on land.
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