Cabin Heaters for the WS42

  • December 05, 2012 4:47 AM
    Reply # 1152845 on 1144279
    Dave,

    In an earlier post, Dick said that it is sealed off and has a drain overboard.

    Rich
  • December 07, 2012 7:24 PM
    Reply # 1154865 on 1144279
    Deleted user
    So I reconnected my "diesel" dickensen floor mounted heater and ran kerosene (The highly refined kerosene for heater use which is available in 2.5 gallon jugs at the hardware stores) and fired it up with alcohol and after burning for a while I must say it is much, much less sooty.  Very warm and clean.
  • December 13, 2012 4:05 PM
    Reply # 1159506 on 1154865
    Deleted user
    Edward Herold wrote:So I reconnected my "diesel" dickensen floor mounted heater and ran kerosene (The highly refined kerosene for heater use which is available in 2.5 gallon jugs at the hardware stores) and fired it up with alcohol and after burning for a while I must say it is much, much less sooty.  Very warm and clean.

    I burned through 5 gal of Kerosene----clean.  Then I burned the old crap from the bottom of my diesel tanks (I had 15 gals of contaminated fuel to dispose of better to burn it then anything else) and boy was that stuff sooty.  So I guess that's why Kerosene with an alcoho; start-up is the way to go.
  • December 15, 2012 6:21 PM
    Reply # 1160736 on 1144279
    Anonymous
    On slightly different note, I finally got my Faball (Sigmarine) 120 diesel heater plumbed in yesterday. Fired it up for the first time after reading all the instructions...and got a little scared. At first there was a mellow flame, but as it got hotter and started to vaporize the fuel it made a sound like a jet turbine winding up for takeoff and produced a roaring flame. Pretty soon it starting making a popping noise a bit like bacon does when the pan is too hot...

    Is this normal? Everything is setup according to the manual (flue length etc) I have yet to hook up the draft assist fan as I don't have the balanced draft system, but it did not get blown out or back-draft and there was 25 k wind in the marina today...so I don't think that's the problem.
  • December 16, 2012 9:29 AM
    Reply # 1161062 on 1144279
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Gray:  I've been using my Taylors model 068 - a kerosene with alochol start heater - and it can really make noise also - though not much heat IMHO.  I do have a blue flame in the combustion area and I do "clean" the jet. 

    The outside of the unit lower unit can hit ~150-200 deg and the stack can hit 200-300 deg. The Kerosene seems to burn pretty clean - but yesterday when it was 49 deg outside I got some of the cabin to be 60 deg - after a while running/roaring!

     

    Update 02/17/13:  The admiral really apreaciated the heat from Taylors model 068 this weekend.  To easily start the heater, add 10 CC of alochol in the wick tray below the burner, light the alochol and let it burn almost out.  With a barbaque propane lighter, light up the kersone burner but at a very low setting.  Let the burner continue to heat up the burner elements and gradually turn up the burner.  With the methond above, I was able to light the heater w/o the smell of unburned kerosene or alochol filling the boat.  The key was to let the burner elements heat up.

    The 12v fan is turned on low after the unit is up to operating temp and distributes the heat in the cabin but not the V-birth.  I'd say that at 45 deg and above the heater would bring the cabin temperature up by at least 10 degrees - below 45 degs I would like a heater with higher BTU output.

    Jay

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  • December 16, 2012 11:30 AM
    Reply # 1161112 on 1144279
    Anonymous
    Jay, thanks for the reply. Good to know that the roaring sound is normal...I have ordered a hella fan to mount in the same area you mentioned..hopefully this will keep the area above the heater somewhat "cooler" and distribute the heat throughout the cabin. Mine gets extremely hot in pretty short order.
  • December 16, 2012 6:28 PM
    Reply # 1161301 on 1144279
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Gary: I'm researching to see if modifying the Taylor is possible/feasable to LPG  and also asking the company for BTU output ... I'll advise when I know more.  I also like to have a fire extingusher handy when I light it up. I use about 10 CC of alochol to start the process.

    What is your units BTU rating? 

    Update: Heard from the Taylors company - and this unit is so old that they don't have any information/drawing/performance information to share.

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  • December 16, 2012 10:30 PM
    Reply # 1161413 on 1144279
    Anonymous
    5000 - 12000 BTU
    Last modified: December 16, 2012 10:34 PM | Anonymous
  • December 21, 2012 10:42 AM
    Reply # 1164842 on 1144279
    Deleted user


    This is the installation on Worldwind, a High Seas diesel heater  It's mounted
    on a 1'' SS panel. The first picture shows the top of the panel where warm air is 
    drawn in.  The box shown on the second photo under the heater has a 
    small computer fan on a rheostat which discharges the air down low. It will keep 
    the boat in the 70's when the outside ambient is in the 30/40's. Even then it has 
    to be on the lowest setting once the boat is warmed up. There is very little soot,
    mostly on start up.  So little we occasionally don't even put the sail cover on. 

    Jim




  • December 22, 2012 8:47 AM
    Reply # 1165316 on 1144279
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    JIm:  Looks great of course!

    To clarify, the 1" SS panel is an air gap that the fan pulls air down and out the bottom to floor level? 

    Do you have the BTU for the unit - and what is your fuel consumption - I assume you draw from your engine fuel tanks.

    Later next week, I plan on wiring up a 12volt fan to blow air around my heater for better circulation - see if that works to heat up the cabin better.  May anchor out around AI etc.

    Holiday greetings  to you and Julie.

    Jay