Interior paint

  • April 14, 2013 6:38 PM
    Reply # 1268723 on 1254628
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    Denatured alcohol when rubbed on with a rag will remove or blemish oil or latex.
    I cant remember which way it works to reveal which existing paint was used.
    Its been a longtime since I've done it. Most any professional painter knows about this. I'm sure its easy to find online. If I thought hard enough I could remember but its late now and I have to get up earlyto paint another house in the morning.



    I couldnt help but check online, its everywhere as I thought, perhaps this isnt the best link.
     

    ps, I keep trying links but I'm not sure if it works on this forum.
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  • April 15, 2013 8:42 AM
    Reply # 1269144 on 1254628
    Well, since my last post I got some oil primer that I was going to use on my bowsprit from Jamestown, and I only ordered a quart but got a gallon. I guess I will use it on the interior. I will try the alcohol test just for grins.
  • April 15, 2013 7:19 PM
    Reply # 1269605 on 1254628
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    Jay,
    Were you able to find online denatured alcohol test for oil based paint info?
    It is everywhere but I couldnt upload a link.
  • April 20, 2013 5:01 PM
    Reply # 1273664 on 1254628
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    Jay,
    Were you able to read my above answer to your question?
    Can you see what I post from an ipad?

    I can only see a few posts per day on this forum, is something broken?
    Where are all the Westsailors?
  • April 20, 2013 6:42 PM
    Reply # 1273690 on 1254628
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    Carl:  I just got back from the boat ... I edited your topic -- and added a return at the end of the link which makes it a clickable URL - and I think anyone can do this...

    As far as the number of posts -- it goes in waves IMHO depending on the subject matter - in this case the correct paint - it's a subject that maybe only few have the knowledge -- I know that I don't -

    I tend to use "marine paint" from known companies - more expensive but if you use a house hold paint and it doesn't hold up as expected then what a mess to fix. On Pygmalion, the interior teak it looks very good so I don't have to figure out what was used by the factory and the owner. 

    On the interior of the lockers / bilge / engine room - either it was a flat white of some sort  or it was raw fiberglass and by 2001 looked pretty sad - I over coated the engine room and bilge with Interlux Bilge Coat white ( could have used grey below the water line) and Interlux white interior paint (not sure the name) - not the bilge coat.

    12 years later - still has a hard shine and very happy with the results - don't see any flaking - I did do a light cleaning of the surface but not extensive surface prep. 

    Do use good ventalation and a resperator / charcoal filtered mask. 

    Hope this helps. 

    Jay

     

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  • April 21, 2013 7:30 AM
    Reply # 1273899 on 1254628
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    Jay,
    Seems sensible,

    I cant understand why someone would cut short the quality of paints for our interiors as so few gallons are required. It's not a barn or a house, it's a small space in a hostile environment.
    I have used some Benjamine Moore Impervo oil paints and feel it may be addequate.
    Sure, as previoussly mentioned there is a concern for lead inside living spaces but it is safe till sanded. When considering the use of aspestos, and many other hard unfriendly chemicals used in constructing of our boats you must always use a quality respirator and not a dust mask.
    There are some zero or low VOC paints that are self priming that should get some consideration
    Benjamin Moore's Aura comes to mind, there is weak support that it covers oil paint.
    I have it on my list to examine their usefullness inside our boats.
    I use them often on houses but would never chance using it to cover oil or epoxy paints.

    Bottom line, if oil or epoxy is suspected cover with oil primer first if latex finish is preferred.
    Or just use premium oil paint or boat epoxy paints.
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  • April 21, 2013 8:54 AM
    Reply # 1273941 on 1254628
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    Carl:

    Of course, if you really want to know -- then someone will have to test by using different paints in the same area and tracking over time -- and report back -- then again what a PITA - and the results also change based on the temp/humidity etc where the boat lives surface prep etc etc.  Of course during the testing above - the paint formula's will have also changed negating the test:(.

    Interesting subject but hard to recommend w/o considerable experience.

    Jay 

  • April 22, 2013 5:35 AM
    Reply # 1274459 on 1254628
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    Jay,
    Everything that I have mentioned is not speculation, it is common information amoungst professional painting contractors. Painting 101 basics.
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  • September 06, 2014 9:16 PM
    Reply # 3094167 on 1254628
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    Hi Everyone,

    I am finally cleaning the interior of Polaris. She has been out of the water for over 25 years in my front yard. All this time I had her underneath a "temporary" shed. Now that the shed is removed, I am refinishing everything. There is one big problem: My cat deposited some "gifts" for me on the boat and they escaped, eating and defecating all over. It is a MESS. With a big fan over the forward hatch and a face mask and a long hose from a large shop vacuum, I sucked out all that offensive stuff.  With a lot of Chlorox I disinfected most of it so that I won't need the facemask now.

    My inability to remember the work that I put in building the interior and then painting it makes it difficult to choose a new paint. I want to paint over the stain of the mouse pee and droppings. First I have to reach into the far corners of the compartments to prep them. I am pretty certain that Westsail Corp. painted most of them with an Alkyd oil based paint. Am I wrong on that? I bought the same stuff later that same year for other areas in the boat (Over 20 years ago). I tried to clean the stains with paint thinner, and some other non toxic items that take the gloss off, but nothing else. The previous posts do not help very much as I do not believe that anything with a "Marine " label is any more suited for painting a boat. There is no convincing evidence by the paint manufacturers. I had problems with big box stores not honoring warranties for repair items on Kauai,Hi. after the Iniki and Iwa hurricanes. I found that to enforce the warranty agreement was more expensive than buying another "weather resistant door.

    In the previous post I found it interesting that someone actually had a 20 year warranty on latex. and it held up for over twelve years.

    I want to go with alkyd/oil, but I see that there is a lot of polyurethane interior paint on the market. Any comments on that? I am primarily looking for ease of application, longevity and ability to hide mouse stain.

    Thanks, Mike Z.

  • September 07, 2014 4:08 AM
    Reply # 3094235 on 3094167
    Michael Zorn wrote:

    In the previous post I found it interesting that someone actually had a 20 year warranty on latex. and it held up for over twelve years.


    That would be me. And to be specific it was exterior semi-gloss latex house paint the previous owner used to re-finish the inside of all the lockers and 'under-cushion' surfaces. 

    I don't know how hard it would be to get a manufacturer to honor such a warranty but if you think about it, it makes sense. I mean, how often do you have to repaint the exterior of your house and it certainly takes a weather beating over the years.... sun, rain, wind, hail, snow, etc.  Surely it would perform the same (or better) if used to paint the inside of boat lockers.

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