led masthead tricolor/anchor light

  • February 26, 2013 10:40 AM
    Message # 1226886
    Deleted user
    I have an old Aquasignal masthead tricolor/anchor light. Thinking that it might make more sense to buy a new LED tricolor unit then to retrofit with LED bulbs. Any recommendations on a good product and value?
  • February 26, 2013 3:34 PM
    Reply # 1228325 on 1226886
    Deleted user
    We have an Orca green LED, I don't remember the amp draw but it is much lower incandescent. While they work well we have had some problems. We are on our second one and had the other one repaired and they are expensive.  I think they're around $400.00 now.  If I were to do it again I'd look at Bebi electronics made in Fiji, they have a good reputation with cruisers.  Also when you replace an incandescent with an Led it no longer is USCG approved for what it's worth.

    Jim 

    Jim:  "no longer is USCG approved for what it's worth."  does this include if the new LED  bulb is CG approved? 
    Jay
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  • February 26, 2013 4:38 PM
    Reply # 1228376 on 1226886

    I bought the Misea Group combination tricolor and anchor/ strobe led light and it its documented and works great however it is expensive. The term strobe might be misleading since it basically just flashes the anchor light. They are fully documented see this web sight for more if your interested.

    http://www.miseagroup.com/solutions/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1

    I have ordered the Bebi lights for the interior. Tate and Dani (Sundowner) were so happy with them I couldn't resist.

    Hope this helps

    Greg

  • February 26, 2013 9:49 PM
    Reply # 1228566 on 1226886
    Deleted user
    I wasn't as clear as I should be, but Orca Green is now Misea.

    Jay, as I understand it they are approved as a unit and any change invalidates the rating.

    This seems inconsequential.  But something we have just learned while looking for offshore insurance is "implied warranty of seaworthiness".  This means if anything is wrong, even if it has nothing to do with the incident, they can deny the claim and although rare, it has happened.  This is a good reason to make all corrections found in an insurance survey.  These policies for offshore are completely different then a standard boating policy and the laws governing them are quite different. As I see it and I admit it's an abstract example. What if you had a serious collision at night with modified running lights and a smart adjuster picked upon it?  Not very likely but it is food for thought.

    Lastly, we are finding worldwide agreed value insurance (75K) for two, to be @ $2500.00/yr.

    Jim
  • February 27, 2013 6:10 AM
    Reply # 1228740 on 1226886

    As we restore our WS42, Harmony, we're needing to replace or install all new lighting, both internal and external.  Of course, we found that all of the wiring on the boat was kaput, so it too needs replacing.  Going with an all LED suite of lighting, both internal and external, offers a benefit I had not originally considered:  savings relative to the cost of wire.

    At this point in the project, I am about ready to run wires and install lights.  Based on the distances from the circuit board and the load on the wires, it is expected that I will have to use at least 10 gauge wire for incandescent bulbs.  However, the LED lights can use 16 gauge wire.  For the wiring of the lights, I expect to save over $1,000 in wire costs.  This savings will just about cover the cost differential for using all LEDS.

    For navigational lights, I went with MISEA lights because (1) their website was helpful and informative; (2) their customer support folks had a very customer forward attitude and were knowledgeable; and (3) the pricing was very competitive.  BTW, I could also source them from West Marine at the same pricing.  Yes, my suite of navigational lights was not cheap, but I am expecting to break even and maybe come out slightly ahead when I consider the long-term savings due to battery charging and replacement costs.  At least that is the plan!

    I used OGM lights for the bow, stern and masthead tri-color.  For the steaming light I chose the Signal Mate which also featured an LED deck light.  The steaming light took a big chunk of coin.  The tricolor was under $500, but priced similarly to the incandescent tricolor from Aquasignal I had used on my old Pearson Vanguard.

    In theory, the savings from the cost of wire should cover the LED "premium".  However, if one is installing LED's onto an existing wiring grid, those savings are not possible.  For me, the costs and savings associated with usage and servicing remain somewhat assumed at this point.  I will be interested in my experience with reliability, as bulb replacement may be tricky at a minimum or not possible at the other extreme.  I did find MISEA to be helpful and competitively priced.

    Doug

  • February 28, 2013 7:41 AM
    Reply # 1229758 on 1226886
    Deleted user
    A web search brings up lots of results for a Clipper Supernova tricolor/anchor for under $200, less than half the price of OGM.  Anyone have experience with one of these?

    Last modified: February 28, 2013 7:43 AM | Deleted user
  • February 28, 2013 12:14 PM
    Reply # 1230077 on 1226886
    What about spreader lights?
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