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  • January 15, 2015 5:05 PM
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    Message # 3201556
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    Hello, Bud. Thanks again for for identifying hull 366 as Eleuthera. I have now taken posesion of her and the work begins. The seller stated that all the standing rigging is on board. I have a box of turnbuckles, and many coils of stainless steel cable. My next move is to catalog the parts, uncoil, measure and label each cable. My question is, where can find a list of what is needed? And what are the lengths of each different piece of rigging? I would like to have all the rigging set before i have mast stepped. I sure don't want to find out something is missing, or in the wrong place at that  critical moment !  Is there a           schematic or something of the sort identifying each piece and its length. Any and all help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.    Best Regards, John  P.S I'll be placing an order for running rigging soon!
  • January 16, 2015 6:52 AM
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    Have you looked over at www.westsailparts.com? The build manual may have all the details you mentioned. 


    check this too http://www.sv-galena.com/WOM/
  • January 17, 2015 5:29 AM
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    Thank you for the info Michael. I checked them and can't find a list of the individual lengths for the forestay,back stay,cap shrouds,and lower shrouds so as to identify which is which. I would also like to apologise for my ignorance in calling them "cables" I now know better !! I'm learning......and learning......and learning.  "Domino College Back To School" Hey I think i'll put on some Buffet. That always helps ! Thanks again Michael.    Hmmmmm.... (Westsail College Back To School)  Maybe....
  • January 18, 2015 5:46 AM
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    You'll know when you've graduated from the Westsail College when the last thing you want to do is put on some Buffet :)


    As it sounds like you do not have much experience I would highly recommend hiring an experienced rigger to set up your standing rigging.  It may not be cheap but that's one area in which you do not want to not know what you're doing.
  • January 18, 2015 12:44 PM
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    Mike.............I never really thought about it but you're right about the Buffett thing.
  • January 19, 2015 4:13 AM
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    http://www.westsailparts.com/W32_Build_Manual/_PAGES/141.jpg

    John,

    The above link shows the standing rigging schedule with measurements from the Westsail Build Manual on the Westsail Parts Company web site. Note that the east coast and west coast boats have a slightly different schedule. It's a little hard to read but should give you enough info to sort things out. Welcome to the group.

    Regards,

    Werner

    I prefer Crosby, Stills and Nash
  • January 19, 2015 4:25 AM
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    I believe i will use triangulation and math to identify the lengths of each stay, and shroud. I just thought someone here at WOA had already done this and could provide the intelligent information i was seeking. I will hire a professional rigger to step the mast and tune the rigging, but i will have the speaders, stays and shrouds attached to the mast first. Whoa...... i just read you're reply Werner. Thank You very much !!!  Now thats usefull information.
  • January 19, 2015 5:00 AM
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    Reply # 3203794 on 3201556
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    My apologies. I was somehow under the impression you just had a coils of 'cable' and you needed the lengths to fabricate new stays, not just to identify which stay was which.  Thus my advice to use a qualified rigger for the job.

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  • January 19, 2015 2:30 PM
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    Reply # 3204743 on 3201556
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    No apologies needed Mike. I really wasn't very clear on what i had on hand. After looking at my Annapolis Book Of Seamanship is see that my stays and shrouds are fitted with "terminals" on the ends. Learning more every day. I, however must apologise to Michael Abrain who was the first to respond and was spot on by telling me to look in the West sail build manual. I just didn't search closely enough. My fault ! I have 2 binders that are supposed to contain the build manual. But looking at the online build manual I see i'm missing more than half. With the support here at WOA I'm twice as confident i made the right choice in buying a Westsail. Even if it is a "start from scratch" "fixer upper" My sincere Thank You to all.    John
  • January 19, 2015 4:52 PM
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    Reply # 3204831 on 3201556
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    John Hedlund Sr. wrote:

    Hello, Bud. Thanks again for for identifying hull 366 as Eleuthera. I have now taken posesion of her and the work begins. The seller stated that all the standing rigging is on board. I have a box of turnbuckles, and many coils of stainless steel cable. My next move is to catalog the parts, uncoil, measure and label each cable. My question is, where can find a list of what is needed? And what are the lengths of each different piece of rigging? I would like to have all the rigging set before i have mast stepped. I sure don't want to find out something is missing, or in the wrong place at that  critical moment !  Is there a           schematic or something of the sort identifying each piece and its length. Any and all help you can provide would be greatly appreciated.    Best Regards, John  P.S I'll be placing an order for running rigging soon!


    John,

    I will email you the page from the Westsail Factory Construction manual that should show the approximate lengths of each stay.  I say approximate, because the length depends on the brand of turnbuckle used, and also whether the boat was early in Westsail history, or later. since the cabintop was raised on the last deck mold to give more headroom, and that would also change the lengths of the rigging.  However, you should be able to identify each of the wires from the page I send.
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