4 - W 32 Ladds Marina - redux

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  • April 16, 2012 6:01 PM
    Message # 891176
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    I have a picasa album going with many photos at

    https://picasaweb.google.com/118204953757954821503/LaddsMarina#5732151576791798162

    I intend to reorganize the images into a progression about the hull modifications, bowsprit and boomkin repair etc when the projects are finished.

    4/15/2012 Sunday - showed that there was a lot of work to go but steady progress being made.  The previous week the crews had to work around rain, hail and winds that blew through the area.  This week the weather will be in their favor.

    Tortuga had her boomkins removed for replacement.  Clear fir will be the material of choice.  By evening, the first of 3 barrier coats was being applied to be followed by faring low areas - then 2 more coats.  

    Jay

     

    Last modified: April 16, 2012 6:02 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • April 17, 2012 8:43 AM
    Reply # 891633 on 891176
    Anonymous
    After looking at the photos and noting what S/V Tortuga "is doing" in preparation for the race to Hanalei, I believe Randy is really in this to win!

    The very best of luck in your quest, Randy.

    "There must be a Beginning of any great Matter, but the Continuing unto the End until it be thoroughly Finished yields the True Glory."  --Sir Francis Drake




  • April 17, 2012 12:51 PM
    Reply # 891830 on 891176
    Anonymous
    Since I have my rudder off and have to repair the trailing edge, I thought I'd go ahead and do a partial David King modification. Can anyone give me a source for the closed cell foam you guys are using for this?

    Thanks, Eric
  • April 17, 2012 7:17 PM
    Reply # 892019 on 891176
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Foam:  I plan on getting the full name from Dave when he is home and on email again... I'll see if I can get a firm answer on Sunday... He called it boat builders foam - comes in sheets 2x2 and up etc.  Interesting product, very workable with normal tools for car body repairs.

    Hope this helps.

     

  • April 21, 2012 9:33 AM
    Reply # 896765 on 891176
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Sunday, April 22 will probably be my last day at Ladd's for this project -- Randy's boat had it's bottom coat sprayed on Friday - he may be in the water by the time I get on site.

    I'll be posting more photos early next week.

    Jay

  • April 22, 2012 6:57 PM
    Reply # 897649 on 891176
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    My last day at Ladd's -- Randy's Tortuga is looking good - here is Doug holding the three layer lamainated boomkin all ready to install.  Doug and Duke built them out of 2 outer layers White Oak and an inner Doug Fir total thickness 2 1/8" to match existing boomkin's - which were NOT the same length!  Link to all photos. 

    Need a few more images of them installed to complete the story. 

    Jay

    Last modified: April 23, 2012 6:46 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • April 22, 2012 8:32 PM
    Reply # 897817 on 891176
    Anonymous
    Jay--thanks for making the various trips to get the photos and commentary.

    Beautiful work by all.

    John
  • April 22, 2012 9:55 PM
    Reply # 897932 on 891176
    I second the thanks to Jay! I wish I could be there to help out some more but it looks like you guys are getting along with out me!

    Thanks again!
  • April 23, 2012 6:44 PM
    Reply # 899410 on 891176
    Anonymous member (Administrator)

    Steve - Randy's Tortuga is ready to launch - he is planning on returming to the SF Bay on 5/5 or so. Boy was it hot -- I was ready for some overcast on Sunday - Randy's boat was moved to a corner for bottom painting and there wasn't much wind!!  Say Hi to Carmen from all of us.

    I believe that the foam material used is below - I'll confirm with Dave King when he returns home.

    H80 Divinycell Plain, 5lb./cu.ft., 48" X 85.6" rigid PVC (Polyvinyl Chloride) structural foam used in sandwich core construction. New formulation with higher physical properties and smaller cell structure.

    He estimated that the boats with fiberglass gudgeons would need ~4 - 1/2" x 2'x4' sheets per boat - you could get thinner 1/4" sheets for use as the taper moves forward.

    Boats with SS gudgeons would need ~6 - 1/4" X 2' X 4' sheets

    The foam is single coated with 9oz glass cloth - woven.

    For the 4 boats 2 - 5 Gal of West Systems epoxy were on hand - 1 was empty by 4/22 with 2 boats to go.  The epoxy was also used on hull's gel coat, washed with water then the barrier coats applied. If you are only doing the aft fairing then you will NOT need as much epoxy. The hardner used for the fairing and hull repairs was 205/206 depending on air temperature.  Bowsprit and boomkin first coat of epoxy used 207 a clear hardner.

    If you have done auto body work with long sanding boards, have a low speed 8" disk sander, you have the major tools and skills.  Now add in a little "artistic elbow grease" and time and this is a doable project.

    All the boats received alot more work the just the hull fairing - makiing it hard to estimate the actual time for just the fairing work.  

    Hope this helps

    Jay..

    Last modified: April 24, 2012 6:30 PM | Anonymous member (Administrator)
  • May 02, 2012 3:54 PM
    Reply # 909560 on 891176
    Deleted user

    Jay,

    Somewhere on the site I thought I saw a PDF with the Dave King mod detailed and some drawings. Can't seem to find it. Can you give me a steer?

    Thanks

    Werner

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