Hawse Pipes

  • October 23, 2011 9:03 AM
    Message # 730163
    I recently received the spun bronze hawse pipes which Stephen Wylie had made to original Westsail specs, which I intend to use as replacements for the original spun brass ones used as scuppers on my boat. I tried to use the hose sections supplied with your cast hawse pipes (I have not finished installation of all of the hawse pipes) but the fit is too snug and I am afraid that the thinner metal will be bent by trying to force them in (not even considering what the caulk will do.) What do you suggest I use? Stephen mentioned that his boat has the holes for the hawse pipes glassed in, so that the hose is unnecessary. Is that the best solution?

    Frank
  • October 23, 2011 4:05 PM
    Reply # 730340 on 730163
    Frank Scalfano wrote:I recently received the spun bronze hawse pipes which Stephen Wylie had made to original Westsail specs, which I intend to use as replacements for the original spun brass ones used as scuppers on my boat. I tried to use the hose sections supplied with your cast hawse pipes (I have not finished installation of all of the hawse pipes) but the fit is too snug and I am afraid that the thinner metal will be bent by trying to force them in (not even considering what the caulk will do.) What do you suggest I use? Stephen mentioned that his boat has the holes for the hawse pipes glassed in, so that the hose is unnecessary. Is that the best solution?

    Frank

    The hose for the cast bronze hawse pipes that I supplied is a smaller size than the hose used with the spun brass ones you have.  You will have to get a larger size hose to fit it.  I do not know the size you need, and do not stock any larger size hose than the one I have been using.  To buy from my hose supplier I need to purchase a full 10' length.  Try checking around at commercial hose supply places, and you might find a cut length.  Otherwise, wrap some sheet rubber around the hawse pipe, and fasten with hose clamps.  
    Bud

  • October 25, 2011 11:08 AM
    Reply # 732927 on 730340
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    Bud Taplin wrote:
    The hose for the cast bronze hawse pipes that I supplied is a smaller size than the hose used with the spun brass ones you have.  You will have to get a larger size hose to fit it.  I do not know the size you need, and do not stock any larger size hose than the one I have been using.  To buy from my hose supplier I need to purchase a full 10' length.  Try checking around at commercial hose supply places, and you might find a cut length.  Otherwise, wrap some sheet rubber around the hawse pipe, and fasten with hose clamps.  
    Bud

    I just want to make sure that everyone else knows that Bud's cast hawsepipe parts (hose/cardboard tube, pipes themselves) are not interchangeable with my hawsepipes, as they have different outside diameters.

    I don't think using a hose to cover the outside of the spun hawsepipes will work if you are removing/replacing hawsepipes with the spun pipes, as opposed to using them for scuppers with a custom built hole.

    The installation is a snug fit in the original hole, and I doubt you could get a hose onto the outside diameter then install it, unless the rubber was a millimeter thin. You'd have to make the hole bigger, and then you are back to doing a lot of finnicky work instead of an easy install, out with the old, in with the new.

    As I believe was mentioned somewhere in the old forum (maybe in an old World Cruiser brochure?), the original hawsepipes were recognized as a potential leak area, especially when the metal started to crack after years of wear. The original owner of my boat realized this early in the game and glassed in those areas so it wasn't a concern for me.

    For the install I just did I slathered the pipes with caulking and slid them into place. When I screwed them down, the excess caulking filled in all the air space and then oozed out to be scraped away. No rubber hose needed.


     

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